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Forums >> Texas Hunting >> Predator Hunting >> Jagurande?

Jagurande?

Trout-killer

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Have you guys ever heard of a jagurande?  AKA "Mexican Panther".  They are chocolate or blackish with faint brendal type markings.  Smaller than a mountain lion but much bigger than a bobcat.

We have seen several of these on our land, not as many as in past though.  I was wondering if anyone knew what kind of impact they have on deer populations.  Do they take down deer often, or only the sick, sticking primarily to smaller game like javelina, rabbit, and small pigs?

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Jaguarundi: They reportedly only get to about 30 inches long with a 20 inch tail. Their diet mainly is fish, birds, rodents, possums, armadillos...scientists do not believe they bother deer due to their lack of size.

 In the United States, where sightings of the cat are very rare, it is classified as an endangered species.

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Good looking animal.

Keep yer eyes peeled!

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They seem to get a little bit larger on my ranch.  I would say that maybe they could take a small deer down but dont know for sure.  They are definatly bigger than a bobcat.  15 yrs ago I can remember seeing three at one time, all together.  I havenet seen one in a while, but my father and other people at the ranch have.

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well i wouldnt have thought that a bobcat could take a deer down either. i guess that if they wanted to they could also

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Im not saying that a bobcat could take a deer but only that a jagurunde is a bit larger than a bobcat leaving the possible for it to take a deer open.  I just dont know.  Although, I have seen bobcats stalking up on deer while sitting in the blind.  Furthermore, sometimes you will see an absolutly scary big bobcat.  Not saying that they could take a  deer but I bet that stranger things have happened.  However, there is no doubt in my mind that a large bobcat could easily take a fawn. 

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Ryland,

Check this out

http://www.texashuntfish.com/flexiforums/thread.cfm?pid=17707&sid=28&fid=25

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O.K guys, I've never heard of this critter before so I did a little research. everything says that they are smaller than a Bobcat so you guys be sure you are not seeing young Mountain Lions on your property. Check out these for more info.

http://www.bigcatrescue.org/jaguarundi.htm, http://ds.dial.pipex.com/agarman/jundi.htm, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jaguarundi, http://www.nsrl.ttu.edu/tmot1/feliyago.htm

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The ones that I have seen seemed to be bigger than bobcats and sure as heck wernt mountain lions.  Ive seen lions out there before too, and these were different.  Maybe we have some sort of larger strain of Jagarunde or something.  Heck, I dont know.  My place is pretty darn wild.

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You know, I was doing some research and can swear that the cats that are shown as Jaguarundis are different from the things that I have out on my ranch.  The cats that I have are bigger ( would say about 50 lbs) and blackish brown with a sort of dark brendal or spotted pattern to.  From a distance, you would say that they are black.  I dont know what they could be but we have all seen them.  Now, I have not seen one in several years, so I could be confused as to what I have seen but everyone around my ranch seems to aggree with me.  Anyways, while looking up research on this cat I found out that there are Jaguars in Arizona.  Now Im talking the big spotted tiger looking things.  I had no idea that we had something so exotic and dangerous in N.America.  WoW!

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Here is a good article about Jaguarundis

http://www.anomalist.com/features/jag.html

 

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very pretty would love to have on mounted on my mantle

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I saw one in Uvalde county by Cooksey state park, close to Camp Wood. I reserched it after I saw it and they are really seclusive. They aren't suppose to be anywhere near where I saw one, so they must do a great job at hiding out. It was the first report of one in Uvalde county in 20 years. They say most have moved into Mexico, so that is where the reserchers go to learn about them. What I read is they are not so aggressive as a hungry bobcat, so I wouldn't worry about your deer population being harmed. The seem to be more timid. The one I saw, looked black and bigger than a Texas bobcat. They are also called the Weasle cat and like around water. Don't shoot! I also learned that it is a $10,000.00 fine to shoot one. Glad I didn't get a chance. Big Whoops! I have to say, the sighting I had was one of the top highlights of my hunting career.

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Someone mentioned Jaguars in Texas. Supposedly, this picture was taken by a guide hunting lion on the New Mexico Texas border.

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as i believe the story it was taken in arizona got the pics in an email a while back beautiful cat

 

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I have done some research on black panthers, hear is the scoop.  There is two species of cats that have been called Black Panther, one is the Leopard, and the other is the Jaguar. The term when a Leopard or Jaguar is black is called Melanistic.  The melanistic gene in a leopard is recessive and the melanistic gene in a jaguar is dominant.  Melanism is most common in the jaguar.  Now as for as the Jaguar goes.  It is the third largest breed of cat alive today,  It is considered the bulldog of the cat family,  it may be slightly smaller in appearance than a cougar (mountain lion) but in body mass and weight it is larger.  It’s head is defiantly larger.  It has some of the largest canine teeth in the cat family and very strong jaws. It usually kills its pray with a bite to the head where its canine teeth penetrate the skull.  It is common in Mexico and South America where it is not protected.  At one time it was common in South Texas.  Two of the last remaining jaguars where shot in Texas in 1946 and in Arizona in 1949.  The jaguar is considered extrapolated in Texas and is on the endangered species list in the US.  I do know there has been a few sittings recently in Arizona and Mexico, but if you truly think this is jaguars you are seeing on your land, I think that is fantastic. I have always been fascinated by the idea of the jaguar making its way back into Texas. 

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Panther

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jaguar

http://www.nsrl.ttu.edu/tmot1/pantonca.htm

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My cousin saw one here in Lampasas county Texas couple of years ago.  He didn't know what it was just thought it was some sort of funny looking cat with a small head.  I thought it was interesting cause they are not supposed to be this far north.

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Wedny isn't making this up. My futre inlaws have had show up on their back port several times! It has killed six of her cats. He property backs up to an exotic ranch just outside of Uvalde on HWY 90.

I sure wish there wasn't a fine for taking one. That would be at the top of my list with taking a Texas Mountain Lion!!

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